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Warpy · Sep 30, 2007, 07:52 AM // 07:52

I am after some help regarding my current weapons and a suitable build for my tank. Here are the weapons I was lucky to find from chests in the Dungeon. I'm after armour penetration build if possible to match my axe stats.

**Marty Silverblade** · Sep 30, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33

When you say 'tank', do you mean actual tanking or just a Warrior in general? Tanking sucks and is a waste of time in most (i.e, 98%+) of PvE.

An armor penetration build... thing with this is that not all forms of AP stack, so you'll be limited in what you can take. I wouldn't take the concept too far, but you could try:

Str 13
Axe 16

[card]Eviscerate[/card][card]Executioner's Strike[/card][card]Agonizing Chop[/card][card]Penetrating Chop[/card][card]"For Great Justice!"[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Lion's Comfort[/card][card]Rebirth[/card]

As I said, you don't want to go overboard with the AP stuff, because it doesn't all stack. The build is similar to yours, because yours is decent already and you don't need to fix what isn't broken.

Div · Sep 30, 2007, 08:50 AM // 08:50

Or take watch yourself instead of shields up in your build and you should be fine. That way, you'll be helping out the party too while outputting similar damage.

Stormlord Alex · Sep 30, 2007, 08:52 AM // 08:52

Somebody's e-peen is showing.

Sundering sucks and 5/-20 sucks.

blue.rellik · Sep 30, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Somebody's e-peen is showing.

Sundering sucks and 5/-20 sucks.

Correct on both accounts

Turbobusa · Sep 30, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18

Sundering is good with evisc, just not PvE where spikes are useless.
you got a good build, as holy masamune said, WY really helps preventing damage.
As for heal sig, I find i'm not using it at all when H/Hing, so i'd drop it for enraging charge/whatever you prefer.

Warpy · Sep 30, 2007, 12:26 PM // 12:26

I actually modded the haft from cruel, perhaps I should have left it. Thanks for the tips... what would you use instead of Luck of the Draw inscription on the shield?

vergerefosh · Sep 30, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37

If you're not running self-enchant, or stancing or whatever, -5/20 not that bad

Stormlord Alex · Sep 30, 2007, 12:44 PM // 12:44

A PvE warrior should pretty much always be in Flail.

-5/20% fails compared to -2/100%.

Cold Hearted Zero · Sep 30, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Somebody's e-peen is showing.

Sundering sucks and 5/-20 sucks.

quote ^^

id take vamp, zealous or furious instead. Marty Silverblade´s build looks okey but id probably swap penetrating chop for watch yourself or something like that

netniwk · Sep 30, 2007, 03:27 PM // 15:27

a better aproach would be:here are my skills-what weapon is suitable?
the difference between a good build and a bad build is bigger the the difference between -5(20%) or -2(stance).
p.s sundering sucks.

Warpy · Sep 30, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by netniwk

p.s sundering sucks.

I might try Furious or maybe Zealous Haft?

Cherng Butter · Sep 30, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Don't forget to Customize the Axe. Vampiric is a decent all around mod for PvE. Doesn't look like you need that much energy to warrant Zealous.

karunpav · Sep 30, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

IMO, Vampiric is the way to go. Guaranteed +3 damage per hit goes a long way vs. highly armored foes.

Warpy · Sep 30, 2007, 11:12 PM // 23:12

What inscription would you guys use on the shield? I'll also give Marty Silverblade build a try too.

Coloneh · Oct 01, 2007, 01:43 AM // 01:43

"Run for your Life!" for the shield. thats the -2 (while stanced)

Edit: also drop lion's for healsig. and split attributes to 10+1 tactics and 8+1 strength for a better heal.

**Marty Silverblade** · Oct 01, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35

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Originally Posted by Warpy

What inscription would you guys use on the shield? I'll also give Marty Silverblade build a try too.

If you're going to change your weapons around, I wouldn't bother too much with the build I posted earlier, because I was giving you a 'sundering' themed build, which you seem to no longer want.

Anyway, with your original build, just drop HS for "WY!" and find something decent to replace "SU!" with.

If you're wondering why -5/20% is inferior to -2/stance, think about it this way: -5/20% triggers once in 5 hits, so essentially thats an average of -1 on every hit. -2/stance (which is basically -2/100% with Flail) gives you -2 on every hit. That makes it twice as effective.

Savio · Oct 01, 2007, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Sundering sucks

It doesn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

As I said, you don't want to go overboard with the AP stuff, because it doesn't all stack.

You generally don't run into problems with the stacking, or you don't care. The only things that don't stack with each other on warriors are Strength, Penetrating Chop/Blow, and Primal Rage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by netniwk

a better aproach would be:here are my skills-what weapon is suitable?

Generally warriors don't change weapons for builds.

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

Edit: also drop lion's for healsig. and split attributes to 10+1 tactics and 8+1 strength for a better heal.

What is Warpy going to do with a req 11 Gloom Shield then?

@Warpy:
You really should have at least two axes, elemental (either Fiery or Shocking for PvE) and physical (Vampiric or Sundering, the difference is minor).
Shield inscription should be -2 while in a stance or +10 vs a damage type, or have multiple shields with everything. In the long run I don't see a huge problem with -5 20% though.

Stormlord Alex · Oct 01, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28

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Originally Posted by Savio

It doesn't.

Does for PvE. Higher enemy AL, less (well... almonst none) kiting auto-crits, lower critical rate overall, and a general preference of pressure over spikes, Sundering is pretty fail.

bungusmaximus · Oct 01, 2007, 07:51 AM // 07:51

OP DOES have yummie looking gear (drools at axe) :P